Here are paraphrased excerpts from Lyndon LaRouche's discussion with the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee on March 23. Few Americans are untouched by the suicides of our fellow-citizens, especially those who should be our most productive workers. Whether suicides per se or through drugs or alcohol. You have to understand these kinds of things; you cannot put them at a distance; you have to get the full blast of what happened. And then, once you have done that, now you can be expiated under those circumstances, and say, yes, I've understood what the issue was, I've understood what the problem was, I've understood what the solution has to be. There is not really the kind of attachment, even of the members of my own organization, of the type one would think would be appropriate for people who are very serious about life. And, therefore the seriousness of human life is something that has to be fully appreciated, otherwise you lose something of yourself. Otherwise you lose the ability to make good judgments. There's no simple solution: as long as Obama and people like him exist as dominant forces in government, that's going to continue. Just think of the death-rate which is being imposed upon people who were actually formerly professionally employed. And they were just destroyed, or driven into suicide. And that has been going on, and those kinds of conditions are going on now. And that's what the characteristics of the United States are now, that kind of behavior, and nothing much is being done about it. And the Congress is not particularly useful in this area right now. So it can be addressed, but the question is, what are we doing about it? What means do we have to actually to do something to make this effective? And I say, right now we have almost nothing. We have the edges of things, but not really. We don't have a mission-orientation which will stick. We can probably intimidate people in their consciences about it, but that's about it. Kesha Rogers of Texas intervened: "The purpose of the space program is to give a purpose and a mission to society. Right now, people are in effect being forced to take their own lives, because the society has taken their life from them. We see this in healthcare. People face this all the time. But as you have said, the real focus must be: What is the purpose and meaning of life after the person is dead, so that you're changing society to have a different conception of a love for human beings, rather than saying, 'Oh, that person is gone now.' " Kesha continued: "The space program is no question of a small program of a few people. The achievements of the space program impact all of humanity for all time, as Neil Armstrong understood when he stepped onto the lunar surface, and said 'One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.' " Lyndon LaRouche commented: "Remember that Obama is the enemy. Our mission is to get rid of Obama. He shut down the space program, and caused many other of these consequences with his bizarre behavior. Don't worry about Trump as such: get rid of Obama. That would change everything: like changing the diaper at last." Let's look at it objectively, that is from a broader standpoint. These people are committing suicide, or destroying themselves in effect. Are we allowing that to happen? We're not allowing it, you would say: yet we're not doing anything to prevent it from happening. That's where the problem comes in. Are you producing the solution for the problem?-that's the issue. Every part of the United States, more or less, is afflicted with an increasing accumulation of people who are in desperate condition, either implicitly or implicitly.